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Fly Guitars Interview: Ralphe Armstrong Part 3: Beyond Mahavishnu, Jean-Luc Ponty

Intro / Mahavishnu Orchestra | Gibson basses | John Luc Ponty and beyond | Ralphe on YouTube


Ralphe Armstrong playing live with Jean-Luc Ponty
Ralphe Armstrong playing live with Jean-Luc Ponty. Photo Armando Gallo, courtesy www.armandogallo.com

Frank Zappa

FlyGuitars After Mahavishnu, you played with Frank Zappa.

Ralphe Armstrong After Mahavishnu, I played with Santana, and then Frank Zappa. We did some recording. I was originally supposed to play with Santana, but John McLaughlin had leeway and talked him out of hiring me. Santana bought my first class airline ticket to go out to San Francisco to record. I also played with Jeff Beck. I played with so many people man, I need to sit down and document.

FlyGuitars What was it like working with Frank?

Ralphe Armstrong He was a disciplinarian, a lot of hard work. Like being in an army. He gave me a lot of freedom, though. He was cool. We did a tribute; me and Napoleon Murphy Brock were together recently; we played a jazz festival last year.

Jean-Luc Ponty: Live
Jean-Luc Ponty: Live. Ralphe describes this album as the "best example of my electric bass playing on record."
Jean-Luc Ponty: Enigmatic Ocean
Jean-Luc Ponty: Enigmatic Ocean

Jean-Luc Ponty

FlyGuitars You are also known for your work with Jean-Luc Ponty.

Ralphe Armstrong I met Jean-Luc in Mahavishnu, and about two years after it broke up, he started a new band.

FlyGuitars Did Jean-Luc let you play what you wanted, or was everything composed?

Ralphe Armstrong He had things written out but I was able to come up with my own bass parts.

FlyGuitars You did some cutting edge stuff with Jean-Luc Ponty. He certainly gave you a lot of space.

Ralphe Armstrong Wait till you hear my fretless recording from 1998. It’s coming out on my web site and I will have it for sale soon. I am with Harmony Network and it will be for sale soon. Live At The Ford Festival. I just played at New York at Carnegie hall with James Carter, playing string bass.

FlyGuitars You've played with a lot more people than we've talked about so far. Would you care to name a few more?

Ralphe Armstrong I played with Marshall Tucker Band, Louie Bellson, Steve Allen, Elliot Easton of the Cars, Kenny Burrell, Curtis Mayfield - I did his last CD New World Order. I did something with Lenny White, a classical aura with the bow.

FlyGuitars Tell me about your use of effects.

Ralphe Armstrong I was a big fan of Jimi Hendrix; I used this thing called Maestro Bass Brassmaster, but now [I use] Digitech.

The Maestro BB-1 Bass Brassmaster and OB-2 Octave box
The Maestro BB-1 Bass Brassmaster and OB-2 Octave box
In 1976 Ralphe said of the Brassmaster, "It makes the bass sound like a trombone. I love it. It's the only device that I like, other than Maestro's Octave box"

FlyGuitars What kind of strings do you like to use?

Ralphe Armstrong I like half wounds for fretless, with low action. With a fretted bass with funk, I like round wounds

FlyGuitars I read you dropped out of the music scene to raise your family in Detroit, but play in local Detroit music clubs?

Ralphe Armstrong Right now I’m back & traveling. I'm with a new company and am working on a recording project with my self and Narada Michael Walden. We're calling it the “Fusion Reunion”. Were going to have some concerts, and have Wallace Roney do some trumpet and Vernon Reid (from Living Colour) to help too. Vernon came and played at the festival two years ago. Maybe George Duke. We might do something in October.

FlyGuitars What’s your Musical direction today?

Ralphe Armstrong I played with D-12; you know, Eminem'’s group. I did two recordings. I play hip-hop. I'm not into one thing; I’'m like Miles: I got to keep pushing forward. He even had had me wear gaiters & gangster hats and triple OG and a DJ. These young kids- young guys have a fit, seeing me play all kinds of stuff, man.





Thanks to John (Redbird) Fertig and Ralphe Armstrong for making this interview possible, Armando Gallo, Henrietta Bannister and Brian Patneaude for use of some great photos, and Nick Horowitz for making it more legible.

Further reading: PBS TV show on Howard Armstrong | John McLaughlin Homepage | Jean-Luc Ponty homepage | other FlyGuitars interviews

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1973 Fender Precision Bass with Fretless Rosewood Fingerboard

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1977 Fender Precision Bass Fretless Maple Neck

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1979 Musicman Sabre Fretless Bass, Brown

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Fender Precision Fretless Bass Sunburst USA 1977 Vintage Electric Bass Guitar

Fender Precision Fretless Bass Sunburst USA 1977 Vintage Electric Bass Guitar

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1976 Gibson The Ripper Fretless L9-S Vintage Bass Ebony w /  Bill Lawrence, Case

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